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this is a tax in itself -- the economy tax. gasoline prices have doubled under the president, electric rates are up, food prices are up, health-care costs have gone up by $2,500 per family. the question is how to get them going again. it is energy and trade. the right kind of training programs. the president mentioned those ideas. education. it is key. it is the future of our economy. we have 47 training programs. they are reporting to eight agencies. we have to get those dollars back to the states and to the workers so they can create pathways into training they need for jobs that will help them. taxation. we should bring the tax rates down. for corporations and individuals. for us not to lose revenue, i lowered deductions and credits and intentions so we keep taking in the same money when you account for growth. energy is critical. the president pointed out that production of oil and gas in the u.s. is up but not due to his policies -- in spite of his policies. all of the increase in natural gas and oil has happened on privat
this is a tax in itself -- the economy tax. gasoline prices have doubled under the president, electric rates are up, food prices are up, health-care costs have gone up by $2,500 per family. the question is how to get them going again. it is energy and trade. the right kind of training programs. the president mentioned those ideas. education. it is key. it is the future of our economy. we have 47 training programs. they are reporting to eight agencies. we have to get those dollars back to the...
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federal tax, state tax, state income tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. that will cost jobs. my priority is jobs so what i do is bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions. create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to an balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money paying more taxes, that's by far the more efficient way to get this balanced. >> obama: jim, i would just say this to the american people if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for -- $7 trillion just to give you a sense over ten year's that's more than our entire defense budget and you think that by closing loop holes and deductions for the well to do somehow you will not end up picking up the tab, then governor romney's plan may work for you, but i think math common sense and our history shows us that's not a recipe for job growth. we have tried this -- we have tried bot
federal tax, state tax, state income tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. that will cost jobs. my priority is jobs so what i do is bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions. create more jobs because there's nothing better for getting us to an balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money paying more taxes, that's by far the more efficient way...
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he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by bowles-simpson, get the rate down to create more jobs. nothing better to create a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes, that's the most effective and efficient way to get the budget balanced. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic. i would say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion of additional spending to the military that is not asking for, $7 trillion, to give you a sense, over ten years, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loop
he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the...
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tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax, it added up to well over 50% of what they earned. and your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses says that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so what i do, i bring down the tax rates, lower deductions and exemptions, the same idea by behind bowles-simpson, by the way, get the rates down, lower exemptions and create jobs. there's nothing better to get us to a balanced budget t
tax rate, they're taxed at a lower rate. the businesses in the last 3% of businesses happen to employ half -- half of all people that work in small business. they employ one-quarter of all workers in america, and you want to take their tax rate from 35% to 40%. i talked to a guy with a very small business, he's in the electronics business in st. louis. he has four employees. he said he and his son calculated how much they pay in taxes, federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax,...
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my tax plan. number 2, i will not reduce the share of high-paid income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it is just not the case. vifive boys. i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep repeating it and hoping i will believe it. but that is not the case. all right? i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. number 3, i will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. i will lower taxes on middle-income families. you cite a study. six other studies look at the study you describe and say it's wrong. i saw a study that said today you are going to raise taxes $3- to $4,000 on middle-income families. throw the studies out there. the bottom line is, i want to bring the rates down, at the same time, lower deductions and exemptions and credits and so forth so we keep getting the revenue we need. you thinks, why lower the rates? and the reason is because small business pays that individualerate. 54% of
my tax plan. number 2, i will not reduce the share of high-paid income individuals. i know it's a popular thing to say with a lot of people, but it is just not the case. vifive boys. i am used to people saying something that is not always true and keep repeating it and hoping i will believe it. but that is not the case. all right? i will not reduce the taxes paid by high-income americans. number 3, i will not under any circumstances raise taxes on middle-income families. i will lower taxes on...
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. >> you have to pay taxes for the rest of your life. >> liberals are more likely to watch law and order. >> tonight, pbs will not be the worst think on television. >> what difference does that make. >> if you wanted to reach an independent swing woman voter by the house and garden channel, if you want to reach a republican leaning law bu less likely to vote swing manning guy the golf channel. >> he did research on blacks who might vote for bush and many are christians that watch these tv preachers. >> now in the name of jesus, i command this debt out of my life. >> so he placed advertisements there. >> in ohio, bush got 8% of the african-american voted. in 2004 he got 16%. because we were able to identify their history was overwhelmingly democratic we had clues they might be reachable. >> this year they want to reach not just swing voters but swing voters in these ten states. >> you take a map of the united states and you just cross them out. we can't win here. >> john: for most of us really don't count. we live in the wrong state. i live in new york. my state votes will go to obama. if
. >> you have to pay taxes for the rest of your life. >> liberals are more likely to watch law and order. >> tonight, pbs will not be the worst think on television. >> what difference does that make. >> if you wanted to reach an independent swing woman voter by the house and garden channel, if you want to reach a republican leaning law bu less likely to vote swing manning guy the golf channel. >> he did research on blacks who might vote for bush and many are...
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i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just about everyone, from right to left, says that romney won the debate. i gave you a full "a" and i give the president a "c" minus. there was a giant difference between their performance. everyone who was fair was impressed with how romney handled that from going to end. obama was stunned by how well romney was performing. he seemed almost to take a step back and tune out. >>neil: do you think he came in to it is on the clock, the president, to your point he didn't expect this, and he saw little risk in taking on mitt romney and even if romney did well it would not move the
i want to keep taxes down on small business so we can create jobs. this is about good jobs for the american people. >>neil: he swings, slams, scores, way too early to say if the swing states swinging back to the challenger but after last night, the critics say they probably stopped swinging away. larry said the race ain't over but he also is saying for the challenger it is an uphill fight. what do you make of last night and how this changes the dynamics? >> everyone, obviously, just...
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melissa: taxes on everybody. looking on the screen. every single tax bracket there. >> i know. aside from income tax he also proposing rolling back the dividend income tax, carried interest deduction. capital gains. all these things that predominantly wealthier americans benefit from. so you end up having to saddle, and so when you, when mitt romney talks about closing loopholes we need which loopholes those are. president's one good zinger, mitt romney you're talk about all these different things. when will you give us deductions you will close. what loopholes? are they too good you're keeping them secret because they're too good for us to hear. melissa: i'm glad you found something you liked about the debate. thanks for coming on. we appreciate it. >> thanks, melissa, i appreciate it. melissa: hear is the question of the day, what was your favorite moment from last night's debate. facebook.com/melissafrancisfox. follow me on twitter at melissaafrancis. gas stations in the los angeles area are shutting down over supply shortages. will the pumps near you be next? >> u.s. sancti
melissa: taxes on everybody. looking on the screen. every single tax bracket there. >> i know. aside from income tax he also proposing rolling back the dividend income tax, carried interest deduction. capital gains. all these things that predominantly wealthier americans benefit from. so you end up having to saddle, and so when you, when mitt romney talks about closing loopholes we need which loopholes those are. president's one good zinger, mitt romney you're talk about all these...
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separate taxes from parallel taxes. it was enacted to enoccur wealthy individuals work its way down the income chain. romney wants do away with it all together. obama could like to replace it. he would like to replace it it requires millionaires making over a million collars would be kiered to pay 30 percent in taxes. >> in a city like new york your stackses are going to go up and you will be paying 30 percent. >> if you make a physical boll lashes in new york you are considered making nothing. >> that is confusing. s is now 25 after the hour. president obama said they were an example of rebounding the economy. after making chevy volt batteries one plant is seeing anything but green. after supporting romney and ryan another celeb has a message for hollywood. >> quarter pounder, chicken? no? >> quarter pounder. look at this. look at this. quarter pounder. >> you know we all know campaign karl. he is on the pain with rit romney. mitt romney trying to convince romney to eat the burger. he is panning out burgers. lots of ph
separate taxes from parallel taxes. it was enacted to enoccur wealthy individuals work its way down the income chain. romney wants do away with it all together. obama could like to replace it. he would like to replace it it requires millionaires making over a million collars would be kiered to pay 30 percent in taxes. >> in a city like new york your stackses are going to go up and you will be paying 30 percent. >> if you make a physical boll lashes in new york you are considered...
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the first 30 minutes of the debate spent on taxes. and this issue take up many times throughout the 90 minutes. welcome back to denver in the spin room. let's go now to charles krauthammer with his thoughts on the debate. >> i thought romney won by two touchdowns. you know? when a challenger steps up on the stage that gives stature, when performing the way romney did, i think changes things. it changes momentum. romney campaign is at a terrible month. to the extent people are saying who is this guy? all of a sudden thrk romney shows up. and he's knowledgeable, confident and he's got nerve. he never backed down on any of with obama, i thought he had a weak night. it looked as if he's sitting on a leaf. i can guarantee you had he been behind in the post he would have had it at 47%. the video damaged romney didn't come up. that is somebody thinks all he has to do is get up there, play out the 90 minutes, hold the ball, and win. but he lost. again, it's not going to change the election. but i think it does stop the romney slide. it is not
the first 30 minutes of the debate spent on taxes. and this issue take up many times throughout the 90 minutes. welcome back to denver in the spin room. let's go now to charles krauthammer with his thoughts on the debate. >> i thought romney won by two touchdowns. you know? when a challenger steps up on the stage that gives stature, when performing the way romney did, i think changes things. it changes momentum. romney campaign is at a terrible month. to the extent people are saying who...
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at the same time that my tax plan has already lowered taxes for 98% of families, i also lowered taxes for small bi businesses 18 times. what i want to do is continue the tax rates, the tax cuts that we put into place for small businesses and families. but i have said that for incomes over $250,000 a year, that we should go back to the rates that we had when bill clinton was president, when we created 23 million new jobs, went from deficit to surplus and created a whole lot of millionaires to boot. and the reason this is important is because by doing that, we cannot only reduce the deficit, we cannot only encourage job growth through small businesses, but we're able to make the investments that are necessary in education, or in energy. and we do have a difference, though, when it comes to definitions of small business. under my plan, 97% of small businesses would not see their income taxes go up. governor romney says, well, the top 3%, they're the job creators, they'd be burdened. but under governor romney's definition, there are millionaires and billionaires who are small business. do
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raise everybody's taxes. he looked right into that lens and he said out there in san francisco, he said i'm going to raise your taxes. well, he's had a lot of experience in that, and he's sure going to go ahead and do it. i remember a statement of lyndon johnson, as he was looking around, his party people weren't supporting him. he said, hey, they painted their tails white and they ran with the antelope. there are a lot of democrats running with the antelopes. not one single democrat introduced that tax bill into the congress. of course i support the president's plan. i support him on everything else. i'm not sure if i didn't i would go doing what mr. mondale has done with jimmy carter, jump away from him. i couldn't do that to ronald reagan now, next year, or any other time. i have too much trust in him, i have too much friendship for him, and i would feel very uncomfortable doing that. >> some now claim he disagreed privately with jimmy cart's -- carter's decision to improse the grain emming. -- embargo. wh
raise everybody's taxes. he looked right into that lens and he said out there in san francisco, he said i'm going to raise your taxes. well, he's had a lot of experience in that, and he's sure going to go ahead and do it. i remember a statement of lyndon johnson, as he was looking around, his party people weren't supporting him. he said, hey, they painted their tails white and they ran with the antelope. there are a lot of democrats running with the antelopes. not one single democrat introduced...
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and rick santorum said in the fictitious land of obama ville romney fight santorum using moves like tax evasion and olympics savior santorum counters with sweater vest and a special move to claim coal herman cain joins the me like he unleashes his nine nine nine attack on romney romney counters with another round of tax evasion toward the end of the epic battle santorum even manages to give romney a dose of church and state. videos are no doubt are doing their due out in the series all leading up to the fine now a battle between royale between president obama and romney one can only wonder about the moves of the future character paul ryan had an austerity attack. on the rand roundhouse kick. you know the mainstream news media as a joke when even one of the most historic trusted influential political news programs. because in a corporate corruption what happened on meet the press this weekend i want can you do to stop the steady stream of misinformation that's korea out of your t.v. so you and i still eat it. you know. you think you understand it and then. you hear or see some other part
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when people are moving to the tax roles rather than welfare roles you can reduce tax rates, or welfare spending and bring it back faster. >>neil: it is about inspiring confidence. ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the economy are encompassed inside the national debt argument. you can get rid of the unfunded liabilities, as well, just the way we did with social security under ronald reagan by tending the age of retirement, by reducing benefits, by subjecting half of them to the income tax. there are lots of things you can do to bring this economy back and fairly quickly in two terms you could bring it back the way reagan did. >>neil: the fact is you cannot buy your way out it. you have to boom your way out of it. thank you, art. >> in washington, dc, talk of a plan to keep the government from going off an immediate fiscal cli
when people are moving to the tax roles rather than welfare roles you can reduce tax rates, or welfare spending and bring it back faster. >>neil: it is about inspiring confidence. ronald reagan did that, bill clinton did it. but this idea that we can't do it and certainly when pundits say further candidate should even touch it tomorrow night, that gets to the core of the problem. >>guest: that is exactly correct. this is the issue. all the issues that we are talking about in the...
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>> they reported federal taxes, state and local taxes. it gives people a fairer picture. that year i happened to pay a lot of state and local taxes, which, as you know, are deducted from the other. i looked it up the other day, and we paid, i think it's 342% of our gross income in taxes. s >> we did a little looking around to see about his. we can't find his 1981 tax return. it may have been released. maybe my bonet knows whether he released it. we did find his income is $1.4 million, and i think he paid the same as i did in taxes. he also made a reference that troubled me very much. he started talking about my chauffeur. you know, i'm driven to work by the secret service. so is mrs. ferraro, so is mr. mondale's. they saved the life of the president of the united states. i thought that was a cheap shot telling the american people to try to divide class, rich and poor. but the big question, it isn't whether mrs. ferraro is doing well. i think they are depog pretty well. i know barbara and i are doing well. and it is darn sure mr. mondale is doing well with $1.4 million. bu
>> they reported federal taxes, state and local taxes. it gives people a fairer picture. that year i happened to pay a lot of state and local taxes, which, as you know, are deducted from the other. i looked it up the other day, and we paid, i think it's 342% of our gross income in taxes. s >> we did a little looking around to see about his. we can't find his 1981 tax return. it may have been released. maybe my bonet knows whether he released it. we did find his income is $1.4...
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we had no tax increase over that food. -- four years. we lowered the tax on ford. the governors will tell you. spend more money here, spend more money there. and we held the line. in this campaign i have endorsed republican proposals to cut spending. the conservative senator from oklahoma. i am proposing to cut congress today. it simply isn't true to say that i haven't supported spending cuts, because i have done plenty of it in the past. >> thank you. senator fisher you have a 30- second rebuttal. >> this was a signature achievement for president bill clinton. it was a vote against cutting spending. you didn't cut spending then. i don't know if you will cut spending if you go back to the united states senate. i don't want to see taxes raised. that is not the future i see for this country. if we are going to truly cut spending, yes, i support a balanced budget amendment because politicians will spend every dime they get. we need a bigger stick. >> thank you. senator kerrey, your question for senator fisher. >> well, can i -- >> not according to the format. >> let m
we had no tax increase over that food. -- four years. we lowered the tax on ford. the governors will tell you. spend more money here, spend more money there. and we held the line. in this campaign i have endorsed republican proposals to cut spending. the conservative senator from oklahoma. i am proposing to cut congress today. it simply isn't true to say that i haven't supported spending cuts, because i have done plenty of it in the past. >> thank you. senator fisher you have a 30- second...
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and so scratch the average republican today, and he'll say, "tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts." >> cut taxes. >> cutting taxes. >> make the tax cuts permanent. >> it's rank demagoguery. we should call it for what it is. if these people were all put into a room on penalty of death to come up with how much they could cut, they couldn't come up with $50 billion when the problem is $1.3 trillion. so to stand before the public and rub raw this anti-tax sentiment, the republican party, as much as it pains me to say this, should be ashamed of themselves. >> this from ronald reagan's old budget director, architect of the largest tax cut in american history? but he doesn't let the democrats off the hook. he says he cringes when he hears the president say things like this. >> i believe we ought to make the tax cuts for the middle class permanent. >> we have now got both parties essentially telling a big lie, with a capital "b" and a capital "l," to the public, and that is that we can have all this government, 24% of g.d.p., this huge entitlement program, all of the bailouts, and yet we don't have to t
and so scratch the average republican today, and he'll say, "tax cuts, tax cuts, tax cuts." >> cut taxes. >> cutting taxes. >> make the tax cuts permanent. >> it's rank demagoguery. we should call it for what it is. if these people were all put into a room on penalty of death to come up with how much they could cut, they couldn't come up with $50 billion when the problem is $1.3 trillion. so to stand before the public and rub raw this anti-tax sentiment, the...
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he said he calculates how much they pay in taxes. state income tax, state sales tax, gasoline tax. it added up to well over 50% of what they earn. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower the deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson, by the way. lower the deductions and exemptions to create more jobs, because there is nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, paying more taxes. that's by far the most effective way to get this budget balanced. >> you may want to move on to another topic, but i would say this to the american people. if you believe that we can cut taxes by $5 trillion and add $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for, $7 trillion, just to give you a sense, that's more than our entire defense budget, and you think that by closing loopholes an
he said he calculates how much they pay in taxes. state income tax, state sales tax, gasoline tax. it added up to well over 50% of what they earn. your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. so what i do is i bring down the tax rates, lower the deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson, by the way. lower the...
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federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. in your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so, what i do is bring down the tax rates. lower deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson/bowles, by the way, get the rates down to create more jobs because there is nothing better for getting us to a balanced budget than having more people working, earning more money, pay more taxes. that is by far the most effective and efficient way to get this budget balanced. obama: jim come you may want to move onto another topic, but i want to say this to the american people. if you believe we can cut taxes by $5 trillion that $2 trillion in additional spending that the military is not asking for, $7 trillion, just to get a sense of her 10 years, that is more than our entire defense budget. anything by closing loopholes and
federal income tax, federal payroll tax, state sales tax, state property tax, gasoline tax added up to well over 50% of what they earned. in your plan is to take the tax rate on successful small businesses from 35% to 40%. the national federation of independent businesses has said that will cost 700,000 jobs. i don't want to cost jobs. my priority is jobs. and so, what i do is bring down the tax rates. lower deductions and exemptions. the same idea behind simpson/bowles, by the way, get the...
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everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board? if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little doodads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodgeball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut, but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the -- >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to sa
everybody would like a tax cut. who wouldn't want a tax cut, especially 20% across the board? if you're making 35%, the top rate, you go to 28%. all chris wallace was trying to get from ryan on sunday was just tell me what big deductions you're going to get rid of so we can finance that. it's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut, but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits, tell us how you're going to do it, and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rid of...
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will start to react -- possible the the markets will react if we start to see sequestration, the bush tax cuts, the debt limit, all of these things that go to make up the fiscal cliff, i think there is a realization about the damage it could do to america's economy. it may force section on the part of the congress and the president -- force action on the part of the congress and the president. this is the most clear campaign i have observed. i still believe there is going to be a strong motivation of us, for a variety of motivations, maybe not all good or all bad, to try to resolve this issue for the sake of the country. maybe i am digging for the pony, but i believe that that has got to happen. there is ample pressure. i will say that this majority leader acted in a very bipartisan fashion quite often, and quite often in a partisan fashion, but there is precedent for it, all the way back to ronald reagan and tip o'neill when social security was going to go broke. it is not as if it has never happened before. it has to happen. >> do you think ronald reagan could be nominated as a republic
will start to react -- possible the the markets will react if we start to see sequestration, the bush tax cuts, the debt limit, all of these things that go to make up the fiscal cliff, i think there is a realization about the damage it could do to america's economy. it may force section on the part of the congress and the president -- force action on the part of the congress and the president. this is the most clear campaign i have observed. i still believe there is going to be a strong...